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Question for old animators at Hanna Barbara: 1960s - 1980s. Do Hanna Barbara cartoons use 30 frames/s or 24 frames/s, and did they draw most animation on 2s for real 15 frames/s or 12 frames/s?

I guess 30 frame/s (15 frames/s on 2s) because US company make cartoons for TV (US TV during that time is NTSC ≈ 30 frames/s).

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This may be useful: https://www.illustrationhistory.org/essays/hanna-barbera-the-architects-of-saturday-morning

For a standard Disney feature, the film would be projected at the standard 24 frames per second with each frame having different animation. Planned animation provided for fewer frames, so that instead of each frame having a new image, frames would be repeated two or three times, resulting in just twelve or eight different frames per second.

This experimental approach is showcased in UPA’s most stylized cartoon, Gerald McBoing Boing, for which they won an Academy Award in 1951. However, Hanna-Barbera adapted the technique out of necessity.

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  • Very great history. I think they use 24 frame/second (film speed) from talk about why Hanna Barbara draw color cartoons: "Also, if television didn’t pan out, the color Hanna-Barbera cartoons would be readymade for exhibition in theaters." Theaters require 24 frame/second film speed, not 30 frame/second. – Châu Feb 27 at 19:21
  • Then for television Hanna Barbara use "cine expansion (3:2 pulldown)" – Châu Feb 27 at 19:32
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As far as I can remember Hanna Barbara was not even on 2s! They would hold frames for seconds at a time. I often felt cheated on the hair bear bunch.

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